Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> Comments on: Read This Book http://twobits.net Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Emacs and the GPL http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-70654 Emacs and the GPL Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:36:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-70654 [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...] [...] As interesting as the main H article is, through a link it led me to an even more interesting read, Two Bits: The Cultural Significance of Free Software. [...]

]]> By: Clarissa http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67029 Clarissa Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:41 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67029 One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software. One can say that Raymond’s theory protected and recognized the hacker. Yes dedication to social contribution is important to hacking, but what happens when a system that you built is no longer in your hands, out in the hands of investors who are clueless. Doesn’t copyright protect this? Is Stallman’s theory too much like the ideas of the hacker revolution and not enough about today? Software is so intricate that it is through the questions of this movement, or debate that answers and resolutions can be found. It was really great to read about this movement, but to also see that desoite their difference in ideologies Free Software and Open Source movement, is a debate searching for a better ways to progress software.

]]> By: Nicole http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-67025 Nicole Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:53:29 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-67025 What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it's almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn't be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy. After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view. What struck me most when reading excerpts from Two Bits for class (Hacker Culture with Biella Coleman @ NYU) was how civilly every party involved in the Gosling-Stallman-Unipress mix-up over EMACS behaved. For what was a very popular program that stood to earn the commercial sector a sizable chunk of change, it’s almost unimaginable to think that people wouldn’t be at each others throats in a lawsuit frenzy.

After wading through the waters of copyleft manifestos and histories, one can easily come to expect to view the copyright holder as an overbearing, villainous character—but neither James Gosling nor the company Unipress really fulfilled that role. That was really refreshing, from my point of view.

]]> By: Nathan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-66971 Nathan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:12:06 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-66971 The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I'm really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky's discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines? The chapter on EMACs made me wonder about how the law changed questions of copyright and why it took so long. Is this a good thing or a bad thing in advancing the cause of Free Software? Some would say law takes so long and waters down what should happen. I’m really not sure what I think. But I am reminded of Clay Shirky’s discussion of groups I had in a class of his, in which we made a group decision. There was a pretty clear consensus about what the decision was going to be, but then it took another 40 minutes for us to continue discussing and keeping the group all involved in making it a consensus process. It kept the group together. Could we say that the reason it takes so long is along these lines?

]]> By: Robert http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-63764 Robert Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:26 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-63764 Hi. I've made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It's available <a href="http://fictionbook-lib.org/showbook.php?id=139" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Hi. I’ve made a .fb2 (fictionbook) version of your book. It’s available here.

]]> By: paurullan http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-60197 paurullan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-60197 I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text? I would like to make a poor-student version: without notes, bibliography, index, A4 size and many more characters per page. Is there any way to access de source text?

]]> By: Kiran Jonnalagadda http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-21526 Kiran Jonnalagadda Thu, 28 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-21526 I've made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format I’ve made an EPub version available here: http://jace.zaiki.in/2009/05/29/two-bits-in-epub-format

]]> By: crystal report http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-663 crystal report Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:06:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-663 […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […] […] Christopher Kelty’s new book, via Glyn Moody: Recursive publics are publics concerned with the ability to build, control, […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-297 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Book of the Week: Christopher Kelty’s Two Bits Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-297 [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...] [...] can buy and read the book here, and we recommend reading the conclusions on the ‘cultural significance of free [...]

]]> By: un ojo en el cielo » Breves http://twobits.net/read/comment-page-1/#comment-165 un ojo en el cielo » Breves Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:42:09 +0000 http://twobits.net/read-this-book/#comment-165 [...] una licencia Creative Commons y se puede leer online o descargar en un pdf. El libro se llama «Two bits». Lo bueno de leerlo online es que tiene un plugin que permite dejar comentarios en cada párrafo. [...] [...] una licencia Creative Commons y se puede leer online o descargar en un pdf. El libro se llama «Two bits». Lo bueno de leerlo online es que tiene un plugin que permite dejar comentarios en cada párrafo. [...]

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